Beitzah 9 - Tzom Gedalia, September 9, 3 Tishrei

Study Guide Beitzah 9 Today’s daf is sponsored by Elimelech and Reena Lebowitz in honor of Zisi Turner Berkowitz on becoming a Yoetzet Halacha.  "May all your decisions be strong and with love." Is it possible to move a ladder from dovecote to dovecote to take out birds to eat on Yom Tov? Beit Shamai forbids and only allows tilting from window to window. Beit Hillel permits moving it. Rabbi Hanan Bar Ami limits the controversy to the public domain but in his opinion, but in private, all will permit it. Beit Shamai forbids in the public domain because of marit haayin, people will see and think one is moving in order to plaster his roof. And Beit Hillel believes that there is no concern about that because there is a different ladder that is used to climb to the roof. Rav Hanan’s opinion contradicts Rav who holds that where sages forbade because of marit haayin,  they also forbade in private? The answer is that this issue is a tannitic debate and each holds by a different tanaitic opinion. There is another version in the words of Rabbi Hanan and the difficulty raised by Rav’s opinion and a different resolution to the question is brought.  The Gemara brings a braita in which there is a different understanding in the dispute between Beit Shamai and Beit Hillel. According to the braita they disagree regarding returning the ladder but to bring it, all agree that it is allowed. The braita also brings up other opinions regarding the type of ladder that is being debated and whether it is only permissible to tilt or even move slowly. It is told of the sons of Rabbi Chiya who permitted something with a ladder because they understood the braita in a certain way but Rabbi Chiya proved them wrong in their understanding and made them undo their ruling. There are two versions to the story regarding what they permitted and why they thought it was allowed and on what basis Rabbi Chiya disagreed with them. If Beit Shamai is strict here, even though it is for the purposes of Simchat Yom Tov, why is he lenient regarding covering the blood (in the first mishna)? And why is Beit Hillel lenient here and strict there? Rabbi Yochanan suggests exchanging their views on the issue of covering the blood. But the Gemara rejects these words and suggests that there are distinctions between the cases. The same question is raised from the next mishna and the same type of answers are given.