Ketubot 72 - September 16, 20 Elul

This week's learning is sponsored by Judy Shapiro for the upcoming autumn yahrzeits of her mother, Deera Tychman, z"l; her brother, David Tychman, z"l; her father, Albert Tychman, z"l; and her mother-in-law, Margaret Shapiro, z"l. Today's daf is sponsored anonymously in memory of Elisheva Frist who tragically died this week at the age of 36. Elisheva, whose kindness touched so many lives, will be missed by her many friends and acquaintances. May her memory be an eternal blessing. Today's daf is sponsored in memory of Major Bar Falah who was killed this week while protecting our country, Israel.  A husband cannot vow to forbid his wife to go to a house of mourning or celebration. Why is preventing her from going to a mourner's house constrictive for her in a negative way? What does it mean "to have her fill up and then dump in the garbage" - another vow he is not allowed to make. Two different interpretations are brought. He also can't prevent her from borrowing or loaning kitchen items from friends or she cannot vow that as well. She also cannot vow not to make her son's clothing, as these are all things that will reflect poorly on her/him in the community. The Mishna lists actions that if a woman does, her husband can divorce her without having to give her the ketuba money. There are two categories - dat Moshe and dat Yehudit. Dat Moshe includes actions that she does that affect him like doesn't tithe the produce he eats, has relations with him while she is a nidda and doesn't tell him, feeds him bread without taking out challa, or takes vows and doesn't keep them. Dat Yehudit relates to other issues such as going out in the marketplace with her hair uncovered or spinning threads in the marketplace, speaking with every man she meets, and according to some, cursing his parents in front of him and speaking loudly so that all her neighbors can hear. Regarding the first category, since these are things she does and he has no way of knowing about them, what is the scenario in which he can divorce her - how will he know that she "tricked" him? If she doesn't keep her vows, how does that affect her husband? There is a debate about whether it is better to try to resolve these issues or is it dangerous for the husband (as there are ramifications for these actions for him as well) and therefore best to divorce her. Dat Yehudit is relating to issues that are forbidden by Torah law - but isn't the law regarding hair covering for women a Torah law? The Gemara makes a distinction within the laws of hair covering that depends on the location. What is the issue with spinning threads in the marketplace? A few different explanations are brought to explain the cases of cursing his parents and a woman who speaks loudly.