Nazir 38 - March 2, 9 Adar

Today’s daf is sponsored by Sylvia Klein in memory of her father, Sherman Israel Klein, Shnayor Yisroel ben Yerachmiel v'Sara, on his 11th yahrzeit, z''l. “He loved Torah, learning, and the Jewish people.” There is a debate about whether the different types of items from the grapes join together for a requisite amount to make a nazir liable for eating them. How does each side understand what can be derived from the verse "anything that is made of the grapevine?" Rabbi Abahu quotes Rabbi Elazar saying that heiter mitztaref l'issur is only by the quarter-log of wine that the nazir is forbidden to drink. Rabbi Elazar himself says that there are ten issues for which a quarter-log is the relevant requisite amount. Rav Kahana gives it a mnemonic - 5 red and 5 white - and provides a sentence for each by which to remember the cases. Why aren't there others on his list that also have the same requisite amount? The Gemara assumes that he included only ones that were agreed upon by all. What is the root of the debate in the Mishna between Rabbi Akiva and the rabbis regarding whether or not the requisite amount for wine for a nazir is a quarter-log or an olive bulk? We learn from nazir to all other forbidden items that have different names, such as dried and fresh grapes, one is liable for each one independently. Abaye and Rava disagree about whether one gets an additional set of lashes when eating grape peels or any of the forbidden items that a nazir can't eat as one is also violating the verse "anything that is made of the grapevine" or since that is a lav shebiklalot, a general term that includes the specific cases, one does not receive lashes for it. Rav Papa raises a difficulty against Abaye's position but Abaye is able to resolve it.