9: Historian Simon Schama: Trump 'gets off on tariff porn'

After perhaps the most extraordinary election result in US history, David Patrikarakos speaks to famed historian Sir Simon Schama to unpack what on earth happens next.  The pair also discuss how a second Trump term will push America toward authoritarianism and why Ukraine may be the biggest casualty of the result. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.