YOU DON'T MAKE POLICY AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT

Singer, songwriter, musician, podcaster and politician John Roderick is back in the studio with podcast Editor Ron Granieri for part two of their conversation. The discussion started in part one focusing on John's experiences during the National Security Seminar at the U.S. Army War College. But talk eventually moved to John and Ron's thoughts about podcasting. The host of two very well subscribed shows, John points to the power of conversation in our lives. Often the dialogue that leads to open minded examination of new ideas, podcasts can be the mode of communication that reaches the masses, tests ideas, promulgates concepts or sometimes just entertains and passes the time. For some it can be their legacy, for others their pulpit and for many their therapy, regardless of their purpose, the reports of podcasting's death are greatly exaggerated. Well now wait a minute, we're now treading on dangerous ground and treading on dangerous ground that's where all the progress is. You don't make progress by just walking around in circles inside the temple you have to get out. You have to move. John Roderick cohosts the podcasts The Omnibus Project with Jeopardy host Ken Jennings, and Roderick on the Line with pundit Merlin Mann. He’s also the frontman of indie band The Long Winters. He lives in Seattle. Ron Granieri is an Associate Professor of History at the U.S. Army War College and the Editor of A BETTER PEACE. Photo Description: The many faces of John Roderick (Top Left) performing at the City Winery in New York City during his One Christmas at a Time Tour; (Top Right) podcast art for Roderick on the Line; (Bottom Right) Merlin Mann and John Roderick -- Roderick on the Line, 2012; (Bottom Left) John Roderick Live at The Chapel, San Francisco CA - Jan 17, 2020; (Center) podcast art for The Omnibus Project Photo Credit: (Top Left) Terry.r.robinson via Wikimedia Commons; (Top Right) @RoderickOn; (Bottom Right) David Lee via flickr; (Bottom Left) michaelz1 via flickr; (Center) Susan Roderick