Ron DeSantis’s Rise From Unknown to Heir Apparent

The Daily - A podcast by The New York Times

As the race to be the Republican Party’s presidential candidate gets underway, one figure has emerged as a particularly powerful rival to Donald J. Trump. That person, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, has broken away from the pack by turning his state into a laboratory for a post-Trump version of conservatism. Guest: Patricia Mazzei, the Miami bureau chief for The New York Times.

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