315: ‘I Don’t Know How to Read’, With Joanna Stern

The Talk Show With John Gruber - A podcast by Daring Fireball / John Gruber

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Special guest: the one and only Joanna Stern. Topics: new iMacs, Touch ID vs. Face ID, remote controls, surveillance advertising, and people who want to make everything a video call when a good old-fashioned voice call would do.

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